Complete 5th Volume for Ginga Nagareboshi Gin

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[M-92 Mantis]

LOG FROM PREVIOUS CHAPTERS:

乃ĿŌŌƉȲ₭ȲŌŪƧĦĪṜŌ : "You are a woman after all." For the umpteenth time, we know this chick is a woman! "A woman really doesn't belong in the midst of battle." I thought I liked you, Moss. Oh, well I'll be over it I suppose and whose idiotic idea was it to have pups right now!?

Kit : Seriously! I don't know why Ben decided to knock her up before a journey, but it's getting on my nerves when it's just another excuse to throw sexism around.

Kit : Um... Even translating, I didn't understand the dogs trying to mug Cross. It's obvious what's on one of their minds, but... The other one just seems to want to rob her. This makes no sense. What would you take? Her collar? And the fact that potentially sexually assaulting a woman is being treated like they're a comedy duo sincerely bothers me...

Speaking of bothering me, WHY is Cross suddenly so helpless that she doesn't even try to run or defend herself in any way, just because her teats are showing a little? Dog gestation periods are around 2 months long! They haven't even been gone 2 weeks! By this math - seeing as she gives birth in I think the next volume - she was pregnant LONG before their journey began, and yet NOW it matters? Does not compute...

Edit: I can't do math, they are supposed to be gone 2 weeks, not 6.

乃ĿŌŌƉȲ₭ȲŌŪƧĦĪṜŌ : I wondered how you guys would translate the "bandit" scene. I'm not displeased. Anyway I never got the reaction of the white dog (don't remember his name) either, we know what he wants. Cross's onset of pregnancy weakness always bothered me as well. Plot wise I don't understand the point of having both Benizakura and Musashi. They're both extremely powerful, brown Tosas, who are former fighting dogs. They seem very similar to me even if I do love Beni.

M-92 Mantis : This is why I kinda wanted to get these chapters out as quick as I could. This whole volume doesn't even give Musashi or Bill a chance to show why they're so powerful or valuable, but now Beni's gonna take up three chapters. I'm not complaining, I like Beni's attitude from what I've seen in the scripts, but now Bill and Musashi are virtually nonexistent, now, and I was excited to know more about both since I don't know anything about them from past scanlations.

I just seriously don't know why Yoshi gave everyone else so much time for backstories but we're not gonna exactly explain Musashi or Bill and his supposed skill at being a 'bandit'.

Also, this is at the point where Cross will just go useless for the rest of the series. Thanks a lot, Yoshi, for trying to use pregnancy as an excuse to randomly become too weak to fight or run away from two perverts, but not to swim from island to island.

@kaiju : I was never a particular fan of this arc for the reasons mentioned above. Cross (although obviously portrayed weaker then the males for some reason) at least DID things, and mattered to the army. Now she almost becomes dead weight for the rest of the books. But at least she had a role, the females in GDW and other Yoshi manga's are only there for the males to swoon over.

乃ĿŌŌƉȲ₭ȲŌŪƧĦĪṜŌ : Now I can really see some manga-anime differences. I can't wait!

Flame : Oh yes what I've been waiting for. I've been waiting for the Mutsu Generals to show. I know they play a bigger part when they show in the manga and that they actually are more of a character then in the anime. Can't wait to see more!

[Lukrietz]

Ginga's/Yoshi's blatant, continuous sexism is very irritating, indeed. It's too bad Yoshi is such a bad author, if he hadn't been I think Cross could have become one of my favourite characters - I still like her, but her potential falls flat. I guess that could be said for many other characters as well, but with Cross especially.

Also, LMAO at Gin and the others scaring Smith and Akatora.

From what you've translated of the manga so far, I can still say that I love Benizakura. However, I felt that the added details to his relationship with his owner were a bit unnecessary; I don't know, but I thought this part had more of an impact in the anime, despite, or rather because of its simplicity. In general, it seems that the anime made quite a few scenes more emotional, while the manga sometimes glosses over things.

Anyway, I have to thank you all for your hard work on translating these five volumes!

[kek]

Hmm, I like Musashi, although he's so quickly overshadowed and forgotten. I'm still very confused about Bill's character though. This volume was a bit frustrating for me as far as Yoshi's story-writing goes. GNG just... doesn't make a lot of sense to me half the time.

Ah and then there was that one moment I dislike Akame, for placing far too much faith in Gin when Sniper was obviously going to kill him if it weren't for the collar. Did anyone else notice Yoshi just stopped drawing the stripes on the Kai brothers for several chapters too? They looked so strange, I wonder if it were an honest mistake or if he was trying to reduce his rendering load.

Anyway, The Mutsu arc is one of my preferred arcs, and it looks like theres a lot more to it in the manga. Interesting.
Thanks as always!

[Kit]

Dec 29, 2014 1:33:25 GMT -7 kek said:

Hmm, I like Musashi, although he's so quickly overshadowed and forgotten. I'm still very confused about Bill's character though. This volume was a bit frustrating for me as far as Yoshi's story-writing goes. GNG just... doesn't make a lot of sense to me half the time.

Ah and then there was that one moment I dislike Akame, for placing far too much faith in Gin when Sniper was obviously going to kill him if it weren't for the collar. Did anyone else notice Yoshi just stopped drawing the stripes on the Kai brothers for several chapters too? They looked so strange, I wonder if it were an honest mistake or if he was trying to reduce his rendering load.

Anyway, The Mutsu arc is one of my preferred arcs, and it looks like theres a lot more to it in the manga. Interesting.
Thanks as always!

Yeah, I saw little point in Musashi after Benizakura was mentioned. They have essentially the same character motif, but Beni's was more developed, and Musashi stopped having lines after that. Bill's pretty pointless, too. (But then, over half the characters in GNG are.)

I agree, GNG just seems like a convoluted mess to me a lot of the time, with no writing skill to hold an already "wtf" plot together, and no really strong characters to give it more value (in my humble opinion) since they're all built up as "the strongest dude ever!!11!" but then fall to the back-burner as Yoshi tries to shove in more "Gotta Catch'em All!" mentality in an effort to keep it interesting, while simultaneously not being able to handle all these characters. Plus there's the fact that Ginga as a whole only ever has like 4 cut & paste personalities, ever, so it's honestly hard for me not to get bored when it's drawn out for no reason, like that. I think I'm in the minority who thinks GDW (manga) did a better job introducing characters while moving the plot along, instead of bringing it to a standstill to talk about how great everyone is while showing said great person doing absolutely nothing of greatness.

Akame is secretly a sociopath. I know it. You know it. He knows it. And now Gin knows it. He just wanted to absorb Gin's soul for the power to live through the entirety of GDWO's inevitable sequel, too. And yeah, I actually did notice that about the Kais, and just completely forgot to bring it up. It's really weird...

Anyway, sorry to ramble. You're very welcome! I'm just glad you're enjoying them!

[Ryan]

really Akame. what would have happened if Gin had died? v-v

[rduke]

Hi all! First of all, I want to say thank you for your and your team works! I want to ask you, how the translation is going? When will you uploadmore chapters and the remainder vol6-10? Thank You!

[M-92 Mantis]

rduke, you can see in our news threads and our news table on the main page that we are actively working on GNG. The next chapter is long and takes time, plus we bounce around for other series chapters and come back around.

[rduke]

I really feel like in my childhood, when I saw first the GNG series. It was a great feeling, when I saw yesterday, there is a team, which do this possible! Keep it up the good work and always see forward for new chapters!

[M-92 Mantis]

Glad to help, and thanks for joining the site! Lemme know if you need to know anything else, PMs are usually what I see first

[Corvus Prudens]

Jul 24, 2014 14:15:00 GMT -7 Lukrietz said:

Ginga's/Yoshi's blatant, continuous sexism is very irritating, indeed. It's too bad Yoshi is such a bad author, if he hadn't been I think Cross could have become one of my favourite characters - I still like her, but her potential falls flat. I guess that could be said for many other characters as well, but with Cross especially.

Also, LMAO at Gin and the others scaring Smith and Akatora.

From what you've translated of the manga so far, I can still say that I love Benizakura. However, I felt that the added details to his relationship with his owner were a bit unnecessary; I don't know, but I thought this part had more of an impact in the anime, despite, or rather because of its simplicity. In general, it seems that the anime made quite a few scenes more emotional, while the manga sometimes glosses over things.

Anyway, I have to thank you all for your hard work on translating these five volumes!

Oh my god, this was like a year ago and I doubt anyone cares... BUT, this is a place to make an interesting point.

    There is clear sexism throughout Yoshihiro's stories, no doubt. However, I don't think that makes him a bad author in any respect. You have to consider both the time during which Yoshi grew up and the culture in which he wrote his works. After all, he was born way back in the '50s, hardly a time of progressive values. In addition, Japanese culture – as far as I can tell – values a kind of chivalry like that of the medieval times, and then multiplied by a factor of ten. Finally, and most importantly, the environment present in most of Yoshi's stories is that of war. War has, historically, been a place dominated entirely by men. Even now, there are very few women who engage in any kind of combat in larger state militaries, and none in the small, tribalistic militias of the middle-east or similar places. As such, I think Yoshi would feel a bit strange if he shoehorned in female characters to a place he didn't feel they belonged. 

    Now, I don't mean that they don't belong; I think more female characters that actually do things in Ginga would be awesome, but really, it's up to Yoshi to decide. If he doesn't want to add them, then fine, I respect that. It's all about diversity, man... I just think a greater appreciation for Yoshi and his background would help us all work through his near-outdated world view. 

[Kit]

Corvus Prudens I honestly don't have much problem with Yoshi's girls or their role in the story. I'm not gonna get worked up about every little thing, and I think the series is just as sexist to men, if not more so. Just Cross in particular always likes to offhandedly mention how she's a woman, which is annoying in itself because she won't shut about about it like we forgot or something, but I more meant that it's really obnoxious when we know the pregnancy serves no purpose other than being a plot device for getting her out of the story and making her more helpless than she always was. (She's a faux action girl if I've ever seen one...) I worded it badly, sorry.

I don't believe in making excuses for Yoshi, since people can, and are expected to, change with the times. But I'm also not worked up about the role he gives women. I'm just upset when they're terrible characters, overall, or - like you said - token characters to appease the masses. Which Cross was, imo.

In actuality, it's Yoshi's writing style in general that really irks me about everything he does.

[The Kirbeard™]

May 30, 2015 22:30:38 GMT -7 Corvus Prudens said:

Jul 24, 2014 14:15:00 GMT -7 Lukrietz said:

Ginga's/Yoshi's blatant, continuous sexism is very irritating, indeed. It's too bad Yoshi is such a bad author, if he hadn't been I think Cross could have become one of my favourite characters - I still like her, but her potential falls flat. I guess that could be said for many other characters as well, but with Cross especially.

Also, LMAO at Gin and the others scaring Smith and Akatora.

From what you've translated of the manga so far, I can still say that I love Benizakura. However, I felt that the added details to his relationship with his owner were a bit unnecessary; I don't know, but I thought this part had more of an impact in the anime, despite, or rather because of its simplicity. In general, it seems that the anime made quite a few scenes more emotional, while the manga sometimes glosses over things.

Anyway, I have to thank you all for your hard work on translating these five volumes!

Oh my god, this was like a year ago and I doubt anyone cares... BUT, this is a place to make an interesting point.

    There is clear sexism throughout Yoshihiro's stories, no doubt. However, I don't think that makes him a bad author in any respect. You have to consider both the time during which Yoshi grew up and the culture in which he wrote his works. After all, he was born way back in the '50s, hardly a time of progressive values. In addition, Japanese culture – as far as I can tell – values a kind of chivalry like that of the medieval times, and then multiplied by a factor of ten. Finally, and most importantly, the environment present in most of Yoshi's stories is that of war. War has, historically, been a place dominated entirely by men. Even now, there are very few women who engage in any kind of combat in larger state militaries, and none in the small, tribalistic militias of the middle-east or similar places. As such, I think Yoshi would feel a bit strange if he shoehorned in female characters to a place he didn't feel they belonged. 

    Now, I don't mean that they don't belong; I think more female characters that actually do things in Ginga would be awesome, but really, it's up to Yoshi to decide. If he doesn't want to add them, then fine, I respect that. It's all about diversity, man... I just think a greater appreciation for Yoshi and his background would help us all work through his near-outdated world view. 

That's a good point. I've noticed there is a lot less sexism in GDW than in GNG, and I think it's because of the time difference in which the two were written.

[Lukrietz]

May 30, 2015 22:30:38 GMT -7 Corvus Prudens said:

Oh my god, this was like a year ago and I doubt anyone cares... BUT, this is a place to make an interesting point.

    There is clear sexism throughout Yoshihiro's stories, no doubt. However, I don't think that makes him a bad author in any respect. You have to consider both the time during which Yoshi grew up and the culture in which he wrote his works. After all, he was born way back in the '50s, hardly a time of progressive values. In addition, Japanese culture – as far as I can tell – values a kind of chivalry like that of the medieval times, and then multiplied by a factor of ten. Finally, and most importantly, the environment present in most of Yoshi's stories is that of war. War has, historically, been a place dominated entirely by men. Even now, there are very few women who engage in any kind of combat in larger state militaries, and none in the small, tribalistic militias of the middle-east or similar places. As such, I think Yoshi would feel a bit strange if he shoehorned in female characters to a place he didn't feel they belonged. 

    Now, I don't mean that they don't belong; I think more female characters that actually do things in Ginga would be awesome, but really, it's up to Yoshi to decide. If he doesn't want to add them, then fine, I respect that. It's all about diversity, man... I just think a greater appreciation for Yoshi and his background would help us all work through his near-outdated world view. 

Oh, I'm well aware of why there is sexism in Yoshi's stories, but that doesn't mean it can't irk me anyway. I just feel that it's sad to see the potential in his work - in this case, his female characters like Cross - go to waste. This doesn't apply only to his female characters; Yoshi has a reputation of falling into old patterns and not fully exploring his ideas, so when I said that Yoshi is a bad author, I didn't mean that I thought he was bad only because he fails at developing his female characters properly. He also has a lot of inconsistencies in his writing, which Kit and M-92 Mantis have more knowledge about than me.

Also, it's true that war's been dominated by men in our world, but this is a work of fiction. Fiction should be able to exceed real life, to be able to depict worlds different from ours, sometimes far different - so having females on the battlefield is hardly a stretch of the imagination... it's only limited by the will of the author. And remember, this is the man who said "it's only a manga", so he doesn't seem to take his stories too seriously

And like Kit, I'm not really worked up about the sexism. I just think it's sad, is all.

[baronbat]

Thank you so much for doing all of these by the way!