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Post by Klomonx on Aug 23, 2014 15:15:33 GMT -7
The anime says P4 entered Ohu 6 months prior before Weed being born, but I can't find any info for the manga. I know that humans had invaded Ohu for some time because they found...gold? And that Blue had went to Ohu to become a soldier, but was shot at by humans - 5 years before Weed -- does that mean P4 had Ohu shut down for 5 years? Or were the humans just over protective of their gold...? Or...just what. I'll tag some people that I think might know, lol... M-92 Mantis , Kit Tora
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Post by M-92 Mantis on Aug 23, 2014 16:39:42 GMT -7
I'd only know through Kit; I'll text her to see if she knows since she's good with the timeline and details like that. It's so hard to tell on your own since Ohu's apparently been a rundown joke for quite a while, even without P4's presence, so I can't even guess on when he came about.
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Post by Kit on Aug 23, 2014 19:00:36 GMT -7
Well there were a LOT of continuity errors with both P4 and Hougen's arrival times (and almost everything else, for that matter), but... From what I could scrounge up in the manga, it seems that what is mentioned - continuity errors included - is: - Akakabuto was defeated 13 years ago - Gin met Sakura "over" two years ago - Akame chose the substitutes 5-6 years ago (confusing, since Smith says Gin was unaware of their existence and I'm not sure how they kept them from him that long) - P4 escaped the lab 4 years ago - When Sakura leaves Ohu due to Lucy's lie, Smith mentions that humans have just started to shoot at some of them for unknown reasons (might be implying P4 had started attacking people in the vicinity already, which they blamed on the dogs. Weed's starting age is mentioned by Sasuke later to be 6 months, so this could give a rough idea of when P4 officially invaded Ohu? Though Weed's age could be an error in and of itself, based on how teeny tiny he started out and Yoshi's track record with keeping Gin's age consistent in GNG...) - Blue was chased out of Ohu by the trigger happy humans 5 years ago (hurray for gaping continuity errors!) As a note, Sakura traveled alongside Gin, Akame, John, and Tesshin almost immediately after meeting them for the visiting of fallen soldier's families until she couldn't anymore, due to her pregnancy symptoms. It was then that Gin asked Tesshin to take her back to Ohu, where Smith took care of her after Tesshin left again (only to temporarily betray Ohu after Sniper directed him to the surviving Kougas to learn about Ohu's hand in his father's death). Then the whole Lucy thing happens, and while dogs have a gestation period of around 2 months, I don't believe we're told how much of that was spent with Gin, in Ohu, or in the wilds before she gave birth. That stuff might not be that important, but it was something I noted upon looking a bit closer, even though I don't own all the volumes, so there might be some details still missing... So we can assume that Gin had been away from Ohu for at least 2 years and 6 months, even before the whole Hougen thing started. The substitutes would have been ruling all that time, but when P4 truly invaded still seems to be a bit of a mystery. ALSO, yeah, there was a gold dig going on and people were blowing up parts of the mountain, which caused a landslide that killed quite a few Ohu dogs, including puppies. So according to Daisuke and Hidetoshi, that's when some dogs got enraged and started attacking people that got too close to Ohu, though no fatal encounters occurred until P4 killed some people, which the dogs got blamed for and subsequently hunted down for. Sorry if some of these facts weren't relevant, but I tried to include some more details in case they help your comic. Again, I could have missed some stuff, but that's what I know.
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Klomonx
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Post by Klomonx on Aug 23, 2014 23:44:11 GMT -7
This is supremely helpful! Thanks a bunch.
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Post by M-92 Mantis on Aug 24, 2014 0:22:18 GMT -7
I didn't even text Kit yet and she just pops in, lol!
Glad that's a case closed! (Yoshi's continuity discussions usually take several pages to decipher)
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Klomonx
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Dum diddy-dum, here I come, biaaatch!
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Post by Klomonx on Aug 27, 2014 18:42:23 GMT -7
OH another question, related to the one I asked, so so so so sorry. Does the manga give any idea where P4 started from? Or did he just escape XYZ Laboratory in XYZ and popped into Ohu one day?
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Post by Kit on Aug 31, 2014 4:15:06 GMT -7
Um... I'm pretty sure it never mentions much about the lab itself, other than that it was a pharmaceutical company building used for animal experiments in order to try and make their organs harvest-able for transplants to humans. I think Jerome said P4 had had multiple animal genes put into him for this purpose, including some things from humans, themselves. I don't remember any mention of where it is, but it's probably safe to assume it was pretty far from Ohu, since I can't logically imagine P4 managing to elude capture for 4 years by hanging around the same spot. Jerome did say he saw Gin kick that Damon or whatever his name was' ass when he (Jerome) was 2, but I don't remember it mentioning where that was, either. Not that that would help much, since Jerome was still in the police training institute back then, and he could have been bought by the lab from literally anywhere. Gin was also there because Damon (I seriously can't remember his name outside of the stupid ComicsOne romanization) had apparently killed one of his messengers, and theoretically, said messenger could have again been anywhere, since Ohu has connections all over Japan. Sooooo, that's a long-winded way of saying "I don't think anything mentions that, no."
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